Today we’re examining my experiences with certain bullets that I think are unfit for hunting big game.
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Roger alaniz
21.06.2023I shot a deer in the hart and is still alive omg what should I dooooooo
Spencer Clinton
21.06.2023I agree with you on the sst and the deer season xp , I switched to using federal fusion 165 grain out of my 308 always get a pass through and never go far
Spencer Clinton
21.06.2023I agree with you on the sst and the deer season xp , I switched to using federal fusion 165 grain out of my 308 always get a pass through and never go far
David Salter
21.06.2023Every shot into deer and elk, total jacket separation.
N M
21.06.2023This was a serious video? Hahahahahaha, I thought this was a parody video. Most of this sounds like your poor poor shot placement and shooting not bullet failures.
JACOB BOWLING
21.06.2023Kinda sounds like you suck at hunting….
Bernard Perkovic
21.06.2023Buy a 300 wm, don't shoot those crappy calibers!!!!
Scott Bergt
21.06.2023Man, I’d have to disagree with you on the SST’s. I’ve never lost an animal from 30-175yds with the 165gr in a 30-06. I this this is more of a shot placement issue.
gtzmwt
21.06.2023This SAID AMMO is still good if we get invaded or if gov tries coming for our firearms, correct?
Alex Sharykin
21.06.2023It's a simple just use bigger caliber.
Big Daddy
21.06.2023I've used Barnes Vortex for years, depending on what rifle I'm using, for big Minnesota deer in 338 Federal and 30-06 and they have always preformed great and been accurate. I also don't shoot past 250 or so.
scott schmidt
21.06.2023Barnes LRX are terrible, at least in 25 cal. TSX, never had anything git up from it. Will try the TSX in 300 Win Mag, but with some backyard testing haven’t had any problems with them expanding out to 300 yards.
Mike Mcshea
21.06.2023180 grain 30-06 Remington cor loct. I dropped a big elk and mule deer with it and hope to repeat my success next year.
John B
21.06.2023Only about 50 animals down with the Eld-X as of date (6.5cm and 300PRC)(hogs, coyotes, whitetail)(30ish-412 yards) but haven't had a single failure or an animal I couldn't find. The furthest I've had anything (whitetail) run with these bullets was with the 6.5CM at 130 yards and that's because it was so dark I aimed and hit dead center in the lungs but had a complete passthrough, tennis ball sized exit, and a red carpet of blood leading from impact to where he piled up. I've never had a hog run at all with either bullet and if it can perform on them, I don't see them failing on an elk. (only bowhunted for elk but will likely take the RC for them soon)
Chris Kristopherson
21.06.2023You have old DRT. They have made improvements since. My 223 DRT is explosive!!!
Nuno paulino Torres
21.06.2023You dont know what you are saying , Sst 💪😂
Master Shake
21.06.2023Just picked up 120 rounds of precision hunter in 270 because I couldn’t find a reliable source of 150 grain. Super bummed now
joe green
21.06.2023the Winchester deer season xp in .223 much better than I though it would but was at 100-150 yards, why they used a 125 grain bullet for the 6.5 Creedmoor and then down loaded it to 2850 fps instead of a 140-150 grain bullet going 2750 is puzzling.
Waylon Legend
21.06.2023The new sst bullet is tougher.
Biomass 1
21.06.2023I use 64 grain Winchester Power Points in 223. Have shot a couple dozen white tails with them. This fall a 5 point at about 123 yards and a 7 point at just over 90. DRT on both. Use Federal Fusion also and both have been awesome out to around 300 yards.
Curtis Duncan
19.06.2023When I started hunting 60 years ago we did not have bonded bullets. A cannelure was about the best you could hope for and all of that "junky" ammo killed cleanly provided your shot placement was good. I'm grateful for all the improvements in bullet technology but you are dismissing some good ammunition there.
Aron Koppold
19.06.2023I like nosler accubond and partitions bullets
Aron Koppold
19.06.2023Nosler is a proven bullet no matter how you look at it they stay in one piece
Walter Ritchey
19.06.2023I love Hornady, but agreed, the SST has awful weight retention. It's an affordable bullet for target practice, but not reliable for hunting.
In Alaska
19.06.2023The issues I’ve found with the eld-x is that a velocities higher then 2200 fps they tend to explode, and that is fine for head and neck shots, but not so good for body shots. Out of my 6.5 CM 200 yards and in they keep around 50% mass retention but once the bullet drops below 2200 fps it is around 90% or more retention.
Out of a 6.5 CM, according to the data they should work great from 200-600 yards, but anything under 200 yards would need to be a head or neck shot.
Not the best big game round, IMO, especially in the bigger calibers where, like my 300 WM, the bullet is still just above 2200 fps at 400 yards.
GT Morrow
19.06.2023Sounds more like a incompetent hunter with poor shot placement then a fault of the ammo…
George Mitchell
19.06.2023I’ve used the 160 grain Barnes TSX bullet in the 7mm Remington Magnum to take many whitetail deer and African Plains Game at distance and never had an issue. In fact it’s my bullet of choice in my .416 Rigby for Cape Buffalo.
Sgtjay64
19.06.2023Of course, everything is subjective and different shooters swear by different rounds. That said, I love the Barnes Vortex ammo. Some folks snicker when I tell them my go to hunting rifle for black bear and wild boar is a Marlin lever action 30-30 using 150gr Barnes no lead ammo. Well, it hasn't failed me yet on multiple black bear or wild boar. Neither has gone more than 10-12 yards after impact, and I've never had to use a follow-up or finishing shot on any animal. My longest shot on a black bear was 80 yards and on a wild boar 140 yards, both as measured with a range finder. I wouldn't suggest this rifle and ammo combo for grizzly, moose, elk or any other species of the similar size.
Robert Martin
19.06.2023All I can say is LOL!
Justin Tempus
19.06.2023The range you shot the bear with the 7mm TSX would be useful info. I'm assuming it was a ways out. I've had no failures with the TSX in my 35 Whelen but any sort of range (if I can expect to shoot over 300) I'm running 200gr ttsx.
Jordan Freeman
15.06.2023The 6.5 deer season xp critique was spot on, surprisingly accurate but the fragmentation is definitely rough. I could get sub-moa on a good day with it and the first time I hunted a neck shot dropped the buck with no problem. The second time I went hunting I went for a "perfect" shot and it was not nearly as effective to my dismay. .
scbane
15.06.2023I have switched from bonded bullets to copper. I shoot mostly the Barnes tipped TTSX in calibers ranging from 243 win to to 6.8 Western and 7 rem mag. With the copper bullets, shoot neck, high shoulder, or worst case, through the shoulder. At ranges over 300 yards, you probably should be stalking closer. Youtube has led very average shots to believe they are the next Chris Kyle, and I am seeing more and more wounded deer every year. At least the dumb ass****s are too lazy to hunt elk and moose.
James CZ
15.06.2023Suprising you have problems with anything hornady. I've shot 338 ELDX at white tail and boar from 50 yards to 400 yards and it blows a grape fruit size hole out the back every time.
John Goodman
15.06.2023I have taken 6 whitetails up to 140 lbs. field dressed with Hornady SST's 150 grain .308. All one shot kills, 100 yds. or less. None went over 10 yards. Most broke a lower shoulder bone going in or on the off side. I agree game larger than whitetails or maybe Muley's deserve a tougher bullet. You are right about how accurate they are.
Joseph King
15.06.2023I tried the SST's in my seven mag. By Tried I mean I shot 4 deer and a cow elk. I recovered every jacket. Had 2 muley bucks keep going after solid lung heart hits, one didn't react at all, just walked over the hill and died in the bottom of the couley on the other side. MOST cup and core bullets really have no place in hunting, there are exceptions but when you have a plethora of bonded core, solids, and partition type bullets why ask for a terminal failure. Personally I'm pretty sold on partitions they just flat work.
SuperCamper
15.06.2023178gr eld-x would probably be good in a 308. Slows it down enough to hold together.
Jamie Gates
15.06.2023All them bullets are deer ammo I'd go no bigger but for whitetail the eldx is great deer season xp is devastating but better land a good shot and the tsx I guess u got a bad batch cause it has did good for me on deer with 6.5 prc and the sst causes massive damage like deer season xp I don't shoot it but out my 308 AR
Casey Jones
15.06.2023Great information; I would like to say I’ve been shooting the eldx bullets for years 6.5 prc, 6.5 cm and 300 prc, 308, 300 wsm. Extremely accurate.5 moa all day. Hunting with them average shot 100 to 200 yards, nothing took a step flat out dropped. Axis, whitetail, hogs, nalgi you name it. I believe when you know what you have and what it’s gonna do performance wise, it shot placement! If the round is very accurate shot placement is not a problem.
Rook Worx
15.06.2023Nosler Partition and woodleigh weldcore or hydrostatic are beasts
Ammoiscurrency
15.06.2023At 125 yards I had the 130gr accubond fail out of a 6.5 creedmoor. Put 2 bullets nect to eachother rightbehind the shoulder. Textbook shots and lots of damage on the incoming side but barely more then a 6.5mm hole in the lungs. Looks like they exploded on impact and one had a 40gr base pass to the otherside. Had to use some 140gr S&B softpoints i got at a gas station as back ups and those finished her no issue. Switched to the 127gr LRX now
Andrew B
14.06.2023Killed two cow elk with 7mag shooting the sst 178 gr I believe. Both were 300 to 350 yard shots and neither made it more than 50 yards. What would you say the best 7mag elk bullets is?
theone031
14.06.2023You are correct about the old Winchester power point. An awesome round. I've taken dozens of whitetail with 100gr. 243 power point.
THE AGENTORANGE105
14.06.2023Only one I didn't like was Barnes soild copper bullets. They had a lot of penetration but no expansion even when they break bone. Pencil size holes on an elk no matter what it hits and I had to shoot it too many times. When back to nosler AB. I'll never go back to barnes
Hillbilly Scholar
14.06.2023For factory ammunition that does not cost a fortune I would use Remington CoreLokt or Federal Fusion ammunition. I reload so my choices in the end are a little different depending on circumstances, but Speer Grand Slam and HotCor bullets generally hold up pretty well and are priced competitive.
DM Fulton
14.06.2023I have had used Hornady SST 30.06 165gr. @ 2880 fps. out of a 22" barrel. And they performed poorly on whitetail deer. I lost two different Bucks after knocking them down with two broadside heart shots!!? The next Buck I shot in the neck, after recovering that one I noticed that the bullet had exploded and fragmented…all of these shots were inside 100 yards. Never had this happen with cheapy Remington core locs… Going to try Federal terminal ascent 175gr. For Black bear .
Eastern Mountain Hunter
14.06.2023I’ve noticed with SST bullets it’s best to shoot heavy for caliber bullets. To keep them from coming apart. 308 I usually will shoot 165 or 150. 300PRC or 30-06 I use 180s but I don’t like going that light with my PRC
Clayton Bruner
14.06.2023one more comment can't hurt! I took the 162 grain ELD-X (28 Nosler) to Africa recently. First day in the field my PH asked what type of bullet I was shooting. When I said ELD-X he cringed and said "my tracker is going to be busy". That evening we're set up on some blue wildebeest at 320yds. When the shot opportunity comes I squeeze and he goes 20-30yds and drops.a 500lb animal that usually takes at least a follow up shot. Next day red Hartebeest bedded at 230yds. He literally tips over dead. Kudu bull at 234yds, 10 steps and tips over. Warthog at 90yds, straight to the floor. Nyala bull at 711yds (mule deer sized animal) one shot maybe went 30yds. A couple of Impala, a Springbuck, Bushbuck, Blesbuck. Sure there were some bullet "failures" but let's investigate the meaning of that word. Did the bullet fail to do its job or did the shooter fail to do his job? We opened up the first Impala and investigated the fact that there was no pass through on such a small sized animal. We found a couple of small pieces of jacket. Did the bullet fail? I guess technically it did but the shooter put the bullet in a place where it's failure caused catastrophic damage so technically it did its job… which is to cause exsanguination. That is what kills an animal.
Now, when sorting through data you need as few variables as possible to come to reliable conclusions. You're talking about different projectiles, different calibers, different shot placements. There seems to be only one constant in the data. The shooter. I'm not being critical. But if every shot was in the same spot and you were having issues recovering animals at a reasonable distance then there's better evidence to point to bullet failures. My 2 cents.
Arnold Foote
14.06.2023how can you say Win 308 Holding up a Box of 6.5 MM ?
chandler weirich
14.06.2023Took a hog at about 75yrds with tge deer XP out of a 3006, it was running took one shot punched through both front legs jellified heart and lungs and had full pass through, only thing i found was bone chips and the plastic tip no lead no jacket…
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